Would using "hidden text" not intended for SEO take me off google because it looks like ba

  • ianizaguirre

    #7411

    Would using “hidden text” not intended for SEO take me off google because hidden text looks like I have bad intent? … I am using

    <div style="visibility: hidden;">
    <h2> TEXT GOES HERE </h2>
    </div>

    as a super easy way to use an anchor for the plugin TABLE OF CONTENTS PLUS. Because I don’t understand the way they explain it, so I came up with my own solution.

    The problem is I was reading articles like these Article that says hidden text is bad for google SEO and I came about another one. These say its bad and I can get removed from the search engine. But my intent is not bad, and the hidden words are short sentences with H2 tags for a table of contents box NOT sentences jammed with keywords. Anyway my plan is to have only one page that will have like 10 of these links.

    Do you think this is a problem? Thank you

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    Kenneth John Odle

    #38109

    This is the problem:

    Quote:
    The problem is I was reading articles like these

    There are a lot of people out there who say things like this because they have a service or product they want to sell you. Anyone can declare themselves an expert on SEO, say pretty much whatever they like, and then offer to “fix” your site, at first for free, and then at a cost. And none of them can really promise you anything because A) search engines don’t publicly reveal their ranking algorithms, and B) those algorithms change all the time.

    If you really want to know how Google feels about this, you should ask Google:

    http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35769

    http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66353

    From that second link:

    Quote:
    However, not all hidden text is considered deceptive. For example, if your site includes technologies that search engines have difficulty accessing, like JavaScript, images, or Flash files, using descriptive text for these items can improve the accessibility of your site. Remember that many human visitors using screen readers, mobile browsers, browsers without plug-ins, and slow connections will not be able to view that content either and will benefit from the descriptive text as well.

    You could argue that the method you’ve come up with doesn’t violate the spirit of what they’ve written above. However, since the plugin apparently offers a different way to do this, you might want to avoid this method.

    For what it’s worth, I use the same plugin and all I have to do to drop a table of contents somewhere is to insert the [toc] shortcode in my post.

    I highly recommend that you go to Google’s Webmaster Tools and read through as much of that as you can. This will tell you pretty much all you need to know to optimize your site for Google.

    ianizaguirre

    #38110

    ok thanks for the advice, and yes I just put that [toc] also but the way it links to pick where to auto scroll depends on what you give a H1-H7 tag to depending on your settings. The thing is I have spoilers (from another plugin “ultimate shortcodes” and I want to keep the spoilers but the spoiler code gets messed up and does not work IF I also make the tittle any H1-7 tag. So if I want to use the Table of Contents and mix it with the Spoiler feature I have to come up with the method I came up with because the explanation makes no sense to me on the guys plugin site, plus my way is much simpler.

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    Kenneth John Odle

    #38111

    Do you have a link to that “Ultimate Shortcodes” plugin?

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    Kenneth John Odle

    #38112

    Also, a bit of web development advice: always remember to look at things from your readers’ points of view.

    In other words, just because you can do a thing, doesn’t mean that you have to do it. (There’s my Star Trek reference for the day.) Most people expect to land on an article and just scroll down to read it. If they have to keep clicking on things in order for them to be revealed so that they can read them, it is a disincentive to continue reading, either that page or your site as a whole. People with less experience on the web may not even realize that they need to click on something within the page in order to read it.

    Always keep in mind your target audience: younger web surfers may understand how these things work, but how likely are they to financially support your dental school education? It’s older readers who have the money to donate, and thus are more likely to support you. Thus, you want to tailor things to their experience.

    Remember, content first, then the bells and whistles. Once you’ve developed lots of good content, you’ll probably find that the bells and whistles are superfluous. (At least, that’s my experience.)

    ianizaguirre

    #38113

    Thanks for your great advice, take a look at my FAQ page. I already set up the Table of contents with the hidden text so I can also use the “ultimate short code plugin” spoiler. You don’t need to use the TOC to see the questions and answers I just put there so its easier for readers to find a quick answer , as the site gets more questions and answers on the FAQ page.

      Do you think its fine ?

    I will soon be working on content, I just want to get the design where I want it to be first 🙂 Thank you for your great help. O and here is the short codes website you asked for Short Codes ultimate WordPress plugin. And I reopened an old thread you were helping me with because I have a new question, if you can take a quick look at Quick Question old graphene thread

    Thank You very much for helping me

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